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By the way, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think many people have seen the anime classics mentioned above and there are MANY more works Miyazaki and Takahata worked on in the 60's and 70's. It's a real pitty that these films aren't well known (but that's probably because these films aren't available on English subbed DVD's).
IMO they're recommended because watching these films does not only allow to you see what Takahata and Miyazaki did in the past (way before Ghibli), but they also give you a better understanding on how Miyazaki and Takahata grew out to be the animators/directors they are today.
I'll try to make a list with links to DVD's of old films Miyazaki and Takahata worked on. >>> Nanashi, I guess you would also know some more films/dvd links??? 
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its a good idea.
i examine it a little. 
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Just decided I'll be making an item about these pre-ghibli films for my website, but I don't know when it'll be finished...
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---the period of A production---
(TV)Lupin III 1971
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN...1759145-7535516
パンダコパンダ Panda Kopanda (Panda, Little Panda)
1972 Takahata(Director), Miyazaki(Layout, Animator) ***Masterpiece
パンダコパンダ 雨ふりサーカスの巻 Panda Kopanda Amefuri Circus no maki (Panda, Little Panda : Circus on rainy day)
1973 Takahata(Director), Miyazaki(Layout, Animator) ***Masterpiece
Panda Go Panda (including Panda Kopanda and Panda Kopanda: Amefuri Circus)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00012Q...9659590-3126560
---the period of Nippon Animation---
（TV）Heidi 1974 Takahata(Director), Miyazaki(Layout) ***Masterpiece
（TV）Marco 1976 Takahata(Director), Miyazaki(Layout) ***Masterpiece
（TV）Conan 1978 Miyazaki(Director, Layout), Takahata(Director) ***Masterpiece
（TV）Anne 1979 Takahata(Director), Miyazaki(Layout)
(to be continued)
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---the period of Telecom Animation Film---
ルパン三世 カリオストロの城 Lupin sansei Cagliostro no Shiro (The Castle of Cagliostro) ***masterpiece
1979 Miyazaki(Director), Otsuka Yasuo(Chief Animator)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000J...9066620-1138409
（TV）Lupin III 2nd series 145 死の翼アルバトロス Albatross: Windgs of Death
1980 Miyazaki(Director) ***masterpiece
LUPIN THE THIRD second tv,DVD Disc25 (145-150)
http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1002808608/
（TV）Lupin III 2nd series 155 さらば愛しきルパンよ Saraba Itoshiki Lupin yo (Farewell, Lovely Lupin)
1980 Miyazaki(Director) ***masterpiece
LUPIN THE THIRD second tv,DVD Disc26 (151-155)
http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1002808609/
じゃりン子チエ Jarinko Chie (Chie the Brat)
1981 Takahata(Director), Otsuka Yasuo & Kotabe Youichi(Chief Animator)
http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1003846259/
セロ弾きのゴーシュ Cello Hiki no Gauche (Gauche the Cellist)
1982 Takahata(Director)
http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1002899782/
(TV)名探偵ホームズ Meitantei Holmes (Sharlock Hound)
#3 小さな依頼人 Chiisana Irainin (The Little Client)
. 1982 Miyazaki(Director), Kondou Yoshifumi(Chief Animator) *good animated films
#4 ミセス・ハドソン人質事件 MrsHudson Hitojichi Jiken (The Abduction of Mrs. Hudson)
. 1982 Miyazaki(Director), Kondou Yoshifumi(Chief Animator) *Mrs.Hudson is very cute
#5 青い紅玉 Aoi Ruby (The Blue Carbuncle)
. 1982 Miyazaki(Director), Kondou Yoshifumi(Chief Animator) **good animated films
#9 海底の財宝 Kaitei no Zaihou (Treasure Under the Sea)
. 1982 Miyazaki(Director), Kondou Yoshifumi(Chief Animator) **good animated films
#10 ドーバーの白い崖 Dover no Shiroi Gake (The White Cliffs of Dover)
. 1982 Miyazaki(Director)
#11 ソベリン金貨の行方 Sovereign Kinka no Yukue (Where Did the Sovereigns Go?)
. 1982 Miyazaki(Director), Kondou Yoshifumi(Chief Animator)
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN...1759145-7535516
リトル・ニモ Little Nemo (Little Nemo in Slumberland)
1982 Takahata(Director), Miyazaki(Director, Layout), Otsuka Yasuo, Kondou Yoshifumi - Canceled
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Nausicaa 1984 Miyazaki(Director), Takahata(Producer)
---the period of Ghibli---
Laputa 1986 Miyazaki(Director), Takahata(Producer)
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There's really a whole lot of them . I have only seen a few when I was a child, but have already forgotten what they're about. What do you think is a good starting point for Ghibli fans like me to get into pre-Ghibli anime?
Pre-Ghibli Titles that I have seen:
- Horus
- Panda Kopanda
- Cagliostro
- Conan
Pre-Ghibli Titles that I saw during childhood:
- Heidi
- Marco
- Anne (?)
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quote:
Originally posted by Jiji
There's really a whole lot of them . I have only seen a few when I was a child, but have already forgotten what they're about. What do you think is a good starting point for Ghibli fans like me to get into pre-Ghibli anime?
Pre-Ghibli Titles that I have seen:
- Horus
- Panda Kopanda
- Cagliostro
- Conan
Pre-Ghibli Titles that I saw during childhood:
- Heidi
- Marco
- Anne (?)
Definitely watch the six episodes Miyazaki directed and wrote for the series Meitantei Holmes -- these are episodes 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, and 11 -- they're amazing! I think I prefer them over Nausicaa . Anyway, the episodes Miyazaki directed are very cleverly plotted and executed, the characters are great (especially Mrs. Hudson, a 19-year old widow! and Inspector Lestrade, who is alot like Inspector Zenigata in terms of his personality, but also Holmes, Watson, Moriarty (who like a typical Miyazaki villain isn't really evil and has a soft side to him), etc.). Also, the animation is great, very high frame-rate (even more so than Nausicaa and Laputa), lots of flying scenes, underwater scenes, crowd scenes, a great deal of wonderfully complex and detailed motion, and lots of "character acting", which really brings the characters to life. Plus, the depiction of London in the 1880s is superb. Here're just some synopses for each episode: http://nausicaa.net/miyazaki/holmes/story.html
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Thanks for your suggestion. I'll try to get them if possible. At the meantime the one that I look forward the most to is Holmes . I wonder if I should get only the DVDs of the Miyazaki episodes or the full set. Do you think the non-Miyazaki episodes are good enough?
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quote:
Originally posted by Jiji
Thanks for your suggestion. I'll try to get them if possible. At the meantime the one that I look forward the most to is Holmes . I wonder if I should get only the DVDs of the Miyazaki episodes or the full set. Do you think the non-Miyazaki episodes are good enough?
The six Miyazaki-directed episodes are on the first three R1 DVDs, and are the only ones worthy to watch. The other episodes are generally not as good.
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quote:
Originally posted by Konan
. . . The other episodes are generally not as good.
yes, i think so too.
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quote:
Originally posted by Konan
The six Miyazaki-directed episodes are on the first three R1 DVDs, and are the only ones worthy to watch. The other episodes are generally not as good.
Oh I see  ... on the good side at least I can save quite a sum and spend it on other pre-Ghibli works.
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As promised an update concerning the pre-Ghibli films that we talked about above...
News update on GhibliWorld.com: 26th of January 2006, PRE-GHIBLI FILM SPECIAL
With info and pictures of the 13 Pre-Ghibli films that Miyazaki and Takahata worked on during the 60's - 80's. From "Anju To Zushio Maru", a.k.a. "The Littlest Warrior", to “Serohiki no Goushu”, a.k.a. “Gauche the Cellist”. Check the Pre-Ghibli Film Special over here:
www.ghibliworld.com/news.html
 
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Originally posted by E_Hakki
Hi Wushu, great site you have there and a very impressive collection too.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by E_Hakki
Just to point out though, I don't think assistant director is as big a role as it sounds.
True, you're right about assistant director not being as big a role as it sounds. Still I thought it was worth mentioning these films as it lets you see what they did in the past and how they started. It's not as the things they did way back then were really special, but it does let you see which road they followed from "nobody" to "animation god".
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quote:
True, you're right about assistant director not being as big a role as it sounds. Still I thought it was worth mentioning these films as it lets you see what they did in the past and how they started. It's not as the things they did way back then were really special, but it does let you see which road they followed from "nobody" to "animation god".
Oh I see your point, it is fascinating to see their history and artistic development. Besides, those movies looked quite good, perhaps you could review some of the rarer ones?
Animal Treasure Island was recently polished up (including the addition of an English dub and subtitles) and re-release, on dvd by 'Discotek media', but I'm not sure I should buy it.
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Jarinko Chie English subs v2 (22/03/10) -
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My Neighbours the Yamadas Comic -
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Imouto He Scans -
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Original Mononoke Story in English -
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