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saviour2012
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11.30.2013, 02:14 AM |
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Trailers
1.Six minute trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KOKvYDLArg
2Early Trailers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZQNoqf_CU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10KyiwSCixU
2.Review
http://awsadmin.japantimes.co.jp/culture...a/#.UpCbysRDvz4
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Personal opinion: Isao Takahata's film are much more artistic and joe hisaishi has done an excellent job on the music overall it is something more than amazing.The only two directors i think have been able to put their imagination into reality like them is James Cameron and George Lucas. Spielberg is good but not like them. Their work was significantly more difficult being live action. however miyazaki and takahata will be right after them in my list of top creative directors.
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Koda
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This one looks good, can't wait
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Koda
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Hey, sorry not been active recently. Swamped with exams and course work at college, back now though
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I will probably go to the cinema to see it this Friday evening! I'll post about it afterwards.
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Orphic Okapi
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I'll probably be seeing it early next week. We'll have to compare notes, Arren.
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Seen it! I enjoyed it a lot. The style takes a bit of getting used to, and for a while it's often rather static. However, as it goes on it feels appropriate, as the static style is mostly in the lighthearted and idyllic first section, but then as the plot picks up there's also a lot more motion. The way the art is used is pretty clever, I feel, with the amount of detail varying a lot, and there is often the sense that the main characters are intruding on a painting. So it looks very nice! I liked the story and characters too, but overall it's rather an odd Ghibli, coming from a very old story and using such an unusual art style. But honestly, that's what I would expect from Takahata.
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Takahata is great at doing this. Its a little like he breaks the fourth wall and selects an art style than in itself is a text. He did the same with Yamadas and it worked brilliantly there as well.
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saviour2012
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comparing with his other movies how good is this new one?
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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso] taken from a quote of Saddletank and Orphic Okapi
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I'm just wondering, based on the animation style, does it seem fitting for it to have consumed so many of Ghibli's animators and so much time and money?
I haven't seen it yet, but based on the trailer, it looks like a minimalist understated style. And yet, Miyazaki was complaining that there were hardly any animators to spare to work on his movie because of how much Takahata's was consuming the entire studio, and how Takahata was paying no regard to finances and making one of the most expensive movies in Ghibli's history.
Comparing the trailers, Kaguya-hime's sketchy art style and frame rate looks more like it could be produced by a very small team on a budget. Whereas Kaze Tachinu looks expensive, with its refined, clean lines and smooth motion.
I'm having a hard time reconciling that with Miyazaki's comments... or is it just that I don't know much about how animation is done?
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I haven't seen the movie yet, but you have to consider that Miyazaki was working well within established animation techniques for Kaze Tachinu. It's a beautiful movie, but it doesn't exactly push the envelope or try anything new. Whereas Takahata is going in a somewhat experimental direction with this film's animation and possibly trying techniques the animators have no prior experience with. I imagine that can be pretty time consuming and expensive.
I can't personally say whether the experiment paid off or not, or whether it was worth the extra time and money. But I do think there's value in trying new things.
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12.07.2013, 06:17 AM |
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saviour2012
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i think it may be possible that no frames could be re-used. thats why the very high cost. little comparing to 3d american movies
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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso] taken from a quote of Saddletank and Orphic Okapi
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Mush - I actually thought about this when I saw it. Backgrounds are sometimes completely unmoving, especially early in the film, and whereas in Miyazaki's usual style there's a lot of activity among background characters, it's not like that in this. That's why I got that impression of character intruding on a painting - sometimes people won't start moving until they have speaking parts, and though it takes some getting used to, I ended up enjoying the effect.
I expect the real answer is something along the lines of what Orphic said. To make the animation work with this art style probably involved much more complex techniques in comparison to Kaze Tachinu which is a great example of animation as we already know it. It could be that because the art has faded, watercolour-like lines and colours, each frame took several attempts in order to keep them consistent, and tracing as in standard animation might not have been so feasible.
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Sadly, I did not get a chance to see Kaguya Hime this week as I expected. I went up to Kochi City for a couple days for a conference, but my schedule never lined up with the showtimes, plus I had a lot of Christmas shopping to do (going home to visit my family this year). Depending on how long it stays in theaters, I might be able to catch it early next year, or else I may have to wait for it come out on DVD.
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as i[and some more] suspected before Kaguya-hime is not doing well enough to be a hit
One thing stumbled across my mind, for a classic tale is the artistic style well suited
I am asking that because i did not like Berserk animation very much but i found many think as it is based on old castle and fight stories the sometimes still background is needed to give a feel.
Can the same be considered for Kaguya-Hime too?
ofcourse quality of it is millions times better than berserk but i am talking about the sketchiness of animations and about still background drawings.
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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso] taken from a quote of Saddletank and Orphic Okapi
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I'll stick with my earlier opinion, which is that even though the often still backgrounds feels weird in contrast to the liveliness of most Ghibli animation, it seems appropriate for this film. It's like there are paintings coming alive bit by bit, going on until near the end of the film where there's much more motion.
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it seems that kaguya hime is a flop in japan.
It cost most that 40 million dollars. Until now it has only collected 22.6 mils.
And theatrical release time is almost over.
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quote: Originally posted by saviour2012
it seems that kaguya hime is a flop in japan.
It cost most that 40 million dollars. Until now it has only collected 22.6 mils.
And theatrical release time is almost over.
Sadly, art is often underestimated. The same can also be said for Takahata, who is always overshadowed by Miyazaki.
I've said this before, but I personally believe that while Miyazaki is the better director, Takahata is the better artisan.
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Yeah, Takahata is just not as big a deal as Miyazaki. It's a shame, because his films have more variety among such a small number, whereas Miyazaki's tend to be along similar lines each time - I guess that consistent style is what makes his such reliable hits though.
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