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Oh come now, as if Miyazaki's original character design looked remotely Japanese. She has green hair for goodness sake!

I really like it. It looks pretty much as I imagine a more realistic San would look. And the way so much movement is conveyed through the hair, the earrings, etc. is really cool.


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Oh come now, as if Miyazaki's original character design looked remotely Japanese. She has green hair for goodness sake!

But if you are going to throw the original away and spend effort on a complete rework with realistic features, why make her look like an American?


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I think this is a girl, but whatever gender they are, I adore the details.



LOVE the lighting in this one.


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Awww...


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Haruhi-san...


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Indeed, acting all shy and cute.

She's adorable when she isn't acting psychotic.


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i think one of the reason that most of the japanese animators creates girls like that is because they still think girls are a object only for entertainment. This was from japanese[mostly asian] cultural outlook. I think Studio Ghibli did a great work in this area . Many people do not actually notice that all of the studio ghibli heroines are Lovely not sexy and they are cute but not adorable too.Because they are strong in mind. It is actually the comparison of lovable and likeable . You will love a ghibli character for their work not their look, whereas you like those character just for their look[i think it is a bad practice for animators]. for example: you love nausicaa for her work and will want to be like her[but i think most of us will not want to be her boyfriend] on the other hand most of us will want to be boyfriend with those girls[it is the reason why animators makes them that way] It is the case for general anime. They actually make the female characters for enjoyment.
[it is totally my opinion correct me if i am wrong]


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No, because I more or less agree with you. Too much 'fan service' in some of the anime and manga I see. IMO, it detracts from the story. but...

And a big BUT here... (no pun intended) This is done because it sells product and that is the whole idea behind any business, sell your product, so I don't necessarily fault these animaters and artists. If it doesn't sell then they don't eat...

As for your opinion, everyone is entitled to their own, so it is not my place to correct you if I don't agree with you. I just post MY opinion...

Of course, your opinion is wrong, heh heh heh...


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Originally posted by husky51 Of course, your opinion is wrong, heh heh heh...

lolwut

I like Shizuku. Seiji be damned.

By the way, it's not just animators who think of girls as "just" entertainment. Consciously or not, most girls themselves do the same, and you can especially see that in the way some of them dress and act.

Kinda makes you wonder if sexual equality is what women in general really want at all.


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Screw your opinions, they are not relevant ^^.

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Of course, your opinion is wrong, heh heh heh...



hahhahhah('')('')('')('')

man you should explain a little bit more

and husky i always admire you because of your young heart. You are the perfect example of sophie in howl's moving castle .[i know you are not 90]
people should learn from you how to be young in heart even when you are old. please tell me your secret.


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Originally posted by Roarkiller
By the way, it's not just animators who think of girls as "just" entertainment. Consciously or not, most girls themselves do the same, and you can especially see that in the way some of them dress and act.

Kinda makes you wonder if sexual equality is what women in general really want at all.



+3 for the opinion


i really feel the same when i see some girls and models and actresses and manymore


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its a uniquely Miyazaki film, one only he could make and its uniqueness places it beyond being easily critiqued.[About Porco Rosso]
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By the way, it's not just animators who think of girls as "just" entertainment. Consciously or not, most girls themselves do the same, and you can especially see that in the way some of them dress and act.

Kinda makes you wonder if sexual equality is what women in general really want at all.



+3 for the opinion


i really feel the same when i see some girls and models and actresses and manymore



You cannot judge a woman's wish for equality based upon the way she dresses. Just no.

I could go outside dressed in the tiniest of skirts and a boob tube (not that I do, but that's beside the point) but that would not mean I still don't wish to recieve equal treatment and respect as my male counterpart. I know plenty of intelligent, strong-minded girls who sometimes dress in what many would consider 'innappropriate' ways, simply because they enjoy their bodies - and yes it's probably for the attention.

But let me make this clear for you. Women want sexual equality. There are ignorant girls who don't truly understand what equality means, who enjoy playing the weak and vulnerable card, but even these girls want respect.

It is men who often (not always) think women are there for solely their entertainment. Women dress the way they want to, most women who dress in overly-outgoing ways often do so because it makes them feel good to be desired - it boosts confidence.

Perhaps this is an over the top response, but Roar what you've said genuinely offends me. I'm sure that wasn't the intention, but I find it extremely demeaning.

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Actually, it's exactly the "feel good to be desired" part that confuses most men.

You don't want men to look at you simply as sexual objects, yet the method used to attract men is precisely that: sexual attraction. Seriously, VERY confusing to us guys.

I'm pretty sure that the "equality" most women seek is different than what several (a lot, actually) of women rights activists claim, and that is the right to stand on equal ground PROFESSIONALLY (as in career).

Hmm, new topic for discussion in GD?


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I can understand the confusion to a point. There is a difference between being wanting to be found attractive and wanting to be seen as a purely sexual object. Just like men, women want to be seen as attractive by the opposite sex - we put time and effort into looking our best for this reason. It feels good to be found attractive, and it often leads to the beginning of romantic possibilities. We don't, however, want this to be the sole point upon which we are judged as beings. I would like to be found sexy, but I am not a sex object. It seems obvious to women that just because we can be sexy, does not mean we are little more than walking sexual organs. It's confusing to us how men don't get that.

Also, I think it's pretty instinctual that as humans our relationships spring from initial moments of attraction. This attraction wanes or rises depending on the personality that follows, of course.

And I think if you asked any woman whether she wanted to be treated equal to men in all ways be that socially, professionally etc.

And yep, maybe that would be good! It's interesting to see people's views on it.

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Thread has been started...


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quote:
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Actually, it's exactly the "feel good to be desired" part that confuses most men.

You don't want men to look at you simply as sexual objects, yet the method used to attract men is precisely that: sexual attraction. Seriously, VERY confusing to us guys.



yes,you are right. the problem is with girls that they want to look sexy at the same time they want to be treated politely.


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There is a difference between being wanting to be found attractive and wanting to be seen as a purely sexual object. Just like men, women want to be seen as attractive by the opposite sex - we put time and effort into looking our best for this reason. It feels good to be found attractive, and it often leads to the beginning of romantic possibilities. We don't, however, want this to be the sole point upon which we are judged as beings.



now look at the following pictures

smart looking
man


smart looking
woman


now look at the following pitures

pictures of men who want to look sexy


pictures of women who want to look sexy



now will you please tell me how in the world the men are supposed to feel the same way towards the first woman to the second. It is absolutely wrong to think that if you wear something that eye catchy people will not enjoy you with their eyes . if you[women] want to be enjoyed by men eyes then we can surely say that women want to be placed as a entertainment object.


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continue here

equality of women


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It sounds to me like some people are judging a person based on one glance at them, and then basing everybody with something in common with that person (in this case sex/gender, depending on how you wish to look at it) based on them.

Obviously ridiculous.

Anyway, now that a new thread has been made for continuing the subject, I hope we can drop the argument from here. This thread was made for fun, and it would be sad if it ends up derailed in this way.

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Cat's Eye? I've heard of that somewhere...

But I love her hair. Like she just stepped out of a shower


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