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Long time, no see, everyone. I prefer the original language with subtitles. I have noticed, though, that I have no problem watching Chinese or Korean films dubbed into Japanese. Dubbing into English just... ...isn't right. My wife's family lives in Northeast Japan and her cousins have the same charming "Touhoku" accent as the people in the film. It would never sound right in English.

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Now that Hayao is retired, maybe he can spend time mentoring his son, Goro.

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The two most memorable quotes for me are ones I'd be very careful about saying to your hopeful other. One is "Iya na yatsu" (repeated several times, meaning 'Jerk') and the other is "Kekkon shite kurenaika?" (Will you marry me?)

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The places were mentioned in several of the films.

Pon Poko was set around Tama New Town and the closing scene was on one of the several golf courses on the hills there. It was probably less than a kilometer from the location where Seiji and Shizuku looked out to the east and the Shinjuku area.

The opening scene of Ocean Waves was in Kichijoji station, one stop east of Mitaka, where one gets off to go to the Ghibli Museum. It was photorealistic of the station as it was in the '90s. Omohide Poroporo was set in Yamagata prefecture, in northeastern Honshu island. My wife's cousins are from nearby Miyagi prefecture and have nearly identical northeastern accents.

It really is no big deal, as Roarkiller mentioned, when the location is clear. It's more fun to try to figure out other locales. Lots of places want to take credit for locales in Spirited Away, but a lot of the inspiration--according to Miyazaki himself--was in the Edo-Tokyo Tatemono Hakubutsukan, in Koganei. He loved to dwell there.

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Getting a Ghibli tattoo would be cool anywhere except Japan. It would be like getting an AK-47 with a My Little Pony theme. Tattoos are socially unacceptable due to their association with organized crime. You'll get kicked off public beaches if you have a tattoo that shows--even a tiny one.

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I caught it at the end of its run a few months back. I had to drive almost three hours to get to a theater that was playing it. It wasn't a disappointment even though it was similar in style to Yamada's--my least favorite Ghibli film. The sketchy animation worked well--especially when there was a scene in which Kaguya Hime grew to a rage.

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I saw trailers for the film the other day. The Japanese title is Omoide no maanii. It's opening July 19th. The background quality is a step above Gedo and a step or two below Ghibli's normal photorealism. The foreground characters seem to be below par for a Ghibli film, so I hope it will be a good story.

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I watch Japanese streaming video while in the states and there have been a few shows on NTV discussing the movie. I don't care what any of the critics say. In one of the shows, Miyazaki was at one of the showings and, at the conclusion of the film, he was in tears--in a very good way. That's all I need to know. The artwork, both foreground and background, was superb. After seeing the background art in Ponyo, I was beginning to get a little concerned.

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Originally posted by Mush
I don't entirely see your point about the locations of the most polluted cities, or about being able to poison things. We certainly have the capacity to do exceptional and lasting damage to the habitability of Earth -- although I'm not at all convinced that nuclear power is as dangerous as you suggest, even to those creatures living nearby. If humankind wanted to wage an extinction campaign against multicellular life on Earth, with some creativity I think we could just about pull it off. But fortunately, there aren't so many supervillains around who are making it their deliberate goal to do this.

What we have done so far in terms of the CO2 is increase the concentration of it in the Earth's atmosphere by a factor of 25% in a fifty year timespan. That is a significant and very rapid alteration of the atmospheric chemistry. Unlike in the case of nuclear plants or polluted cities, this is global in scope. The difference is that while pollution of a city affects an area of ten thousand square kilometers, altering atmospheric chemistry affects an area of five hundred million square kilometers, which is fifty thousand times larger, and represents all of the area we have. That, to me, makes it an entirely different class of problem from local air, water, and land pollution. It has much more in common with a problem like the destruction of the ozone layer.

Even setting aside climate change, a 25% increase in carbon dioxide concentration is already a cause for concern because CO2 lowers the pH of water, making it more acidic, which means a global increase in soil and ocean acidity. But I'm still more concerned about the heat flux.

Methane is a problem too, and when most scientists refer to 'carbon emissions', methane (CH4) is included. Water vapour is not, and when you say that it's a larger "threat", that tells me I should clear up a point of confusion. The equilibrium water vapour concentration in the atmosphere is strictly regulated by temperature. As a result, water vapour acts as a feedback mechanism only, and it would be impossible to disturb the climate by a campaign of sustained H2O emissions. (It would come back down as rain a few weeks later). Water plays a strong role in the climate but it is not a 'free variable' that humans or any other entity can directly change.

I don't know what "scenarios set forth by alarmists and charlatans" you're referring to, so your insistence on their being outrageous isn't very meaningful. Maybe if you outline some of them, I would agree with you that they're unfeasible. To be sure, there's a lot of people on all sides of the debate who have no idea what they're talking about, so I'm sure that there are alarmists and charlatans who have claimed implausible scenarios.

The consequences that most concern me about climate change are the effects on ocean chemistry (hypoxia and acidity), the decline in agricultural productivity (due to reduced soil water retention, more variable precipitation, increases in O3, and higher temperatures), extinction of species, and destabilizing feedback effects (trapped methane in particular). I would call these alarming, not necessarily alarmist, because they are all reasonably well-supported in the scientific literature and therefore not "exaggeration of a danger to cause needless panic".



Here are a few alarmist scenarios:

1. From Al Gore's production, he shows a time lapse animation of water rising around buildings. Is that an accurate scientific depiction?

2. Meredith Viera, on two occasions, made outrageous global warming statements. Once she made a claim that if all the glaciers in Iceland (yes, tiny little iceland) were to melt, the oceans would rise at least 200 feet. On another occasion, during a special on the top ten threats to mankind (where guess what was number one), she made the claim that the earth would becme like venus with 600 degree temperatures. Are these accurate?

3. James Hansen, the nut formerly at NASA, made the claim that the arctic will be ice-free during the summer months by the year 2040. A quarter of that time has elapsed already with no discernable change. Gotta push that date out further, I guess. Maybe 2100?

Then we have Al Gore equating science and the scientific process as one that reaches full maturity when there is a consensus. We have "scientists" in Europe who want to criminalize any dissenting thought. Sounds like the kind of science practiced by the Germans during one of their darker periods.

We have the 2010 East Anglia University fudging climate data because the real data wasn't fitting their curve.

When it gets to your concern about the acidification of the seas due to increased CO2 concentration in the air, you have a point--but acidification has absolutely nothing to do with climate change.

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dballred, are you suggesting that I don't understand mathematics, physics, or trigonometry? I am not a Marxist, and I would encourage you to refrain from ad hominem arguments, especially on this forum. Personally speaking, I have attempted to convince myself on numerous occasions that anthropogenic climate change is a fraud, and on confronting the evidence, failed to do so each time. I would very much like to believe it isn't true. It would make my life much easier, and I would be able to direct my efforts to other important problems without worrying about the climate.

But I have not, so far, been able to find convincing reason to doubt the anthropogenic climate change theory, and not for lack of trying on my part.

I agree with you that sea level rise is not a primary concern. I also believe that while 'adaptability' is a trait that humans possess in spades, I am not convinced that it is a trait human civilisation shares.



Even I will admit to an anthropogenic component to climate change, but nothing we do or could possibly do when in comes to the emission of Carbon Dioxide, can create the scenarios set forth by the alarmists and charlatans. We are capable of doing--and are doing--far worse things. Of the ten most polluted cities on Earth, the top 7 are all in China and 8 through ten are in the third world. We can put things in the earth that can kill all life for thousands of years--and yet we put them in drums that last only a few decades. We put nuclear power plants next to the water needed to cool them--the same water that can destroy the mechanisms pumpling that water a la Fukushima. Are we not incapable of creating and accidentally releasing a chemical into the water that can kill all sea life? Can we not create a new genetic hybrid somethingorother that feasts on algae until it's depleted?

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Marxists disguised as environmentalists.
LOL, not your usual restrained self today then DB?

I'm no Marxist, I just think its unwise to sit and do nothing while climate change wipes out billions of humans. Wouldn't you agree?

The last time there was significant climate swing on earth, we were savages clothed in wolf-pelts and had just come out of Africa and were heading west across Europe and east across Asia. If we have a significant climate swing again now and do nothing about it we could end up back in the same place.



As I indicated, Marxists are one of the groups of people--not the entire set of climate alarmists. The rest are merely unaware of physics, the laws of thermodynamics, and the power of trigonometry when it comes to the sun and the shape of the Earth. I don't want to put you on the spot here, but let's apply a little critical thinking. How could billions of people die as a result of climate change? With the lone exception of a climate glitch concurrent with the P-T mass extinction event 255 million years ago, the Earth has toggled between 12 degrees and 22 degrees celsius almost like a square wave--and right now, we're closer to 12 degrees. Mass extinctions have happened as a result of climate change, but that was invariably due to the inflexible nature of the various species. Please give us humans a little credit for being able to adapt better than our fellow flora and fauna.

As for oceans rising, why don't millions of people die twice each day with the tide? The oceans rise and fall at least a meter every day--some places several meters. The oceans have been rising and falling due to several ice ages during the reign of man and all man has ever needed to do is avoid the daily tides in order to keep well ahead of any overall ocean rise. Gradually, man has had to retreat from a given spot due to the changing shoreline, but the process is ridiculously slow.

Mankind has much bigger problems to solve that to waste time feeding the egos and wallets of the hypocrites (like Al Gore) in the windmill-tilting effort to keep the climate exactly the same.

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WOW!
Welcome back dballred...

Also, long time no see. First Flatwheels and now you!!!

What a great surprise this morning...

Always glad to see you all...



Just getting caught up and this thread kinda jumped out at me. This NSA thing has got me so outraged that I'm beside myself; I fully understand the new need to seek privacy. At least I'll have a trip later this month to Japan so I can see Kaze Tachinu. Now that I'm beside myself, though, I'll need two tickets.

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Originally posted by dballred The best one can hope for is to get lost in the noise.
And never use Google search. Or YouTube.



Or use an ATM or pass beneath a traffic camera or buy a laptop with a webcam or use a cell phone or receive a call from a cell phone or use a credit card. After all, terrorists do all those things--and we have to be safe from terrorists.

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There's nothing wrong at all with doing whatever you can do to limit your own production of Carbon Dioxide, but the measures the charlatans want, such as setting up "Carbon Taxes," "Cap and Trade," and establishing "CAFE Standards" with fines instead of outright bans is nothing more than stealing money and grabbing power with zero positive results.

What's really dangerous about human activity has nothing at all to do with CO2. It has to do with the REAL pollutants, such as toxic chemicals and radioactive waste. These pollutants can sever the food chain near the bottom, creating a cascading effect that can lead to the extinction of all higher forms of life.

As far as greenhouse gasses go, methane is a far greater "threat" (if you want to call it that) and the greatest "threat" is plain water vapor. To see what water vapor vice the lack of it does, look at places like Hawaii and compare them to places like the Sahara Desert. I'd rather live in Hawaii.

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Global warming, as presented by the usual gang of Marxists disguised as environmentalists, is a crock. Climate change does exist, it's natural, and it occurs so slowly that even tree lines can outrun the rising and falling ocean levels. At the peak of the last ice age, the ocean levels were over 100 meters lower that they are now and it's mathematically possible for them to rise another 60-70 meters. However, the southern half of Greenland is the only real candidate for thawing as its latitude indicates it being a remnant of a previous ice age.

The real way to distinguish the Marxists from those true environmentalists who just don't understand mathematics and the cosine effect of sunlight is the solutions they offer. Beware anyone who says you can transfer money from rich nations to poor nations and solve global warming.

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A note to those who want to become anonymous after not being so: It's not going to happen. If it's any consolation, recent revelations concerning the NSA demonstrate that even those people who take measures to ensure anonymity won't be able to achieve it. The best one can hope for is to get lost in the noise.

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In many of the reviews of Grave of the fireflies that I've read/heard the reviewer seems to think that it's Seita's fault that little Setsuko dies. In my Ghibli book the authors even write that Seita killed his little sister. I have a really hard time grasping this concept. For me, the message of the movie seems to be that in war, it's always the weakest who suffer most. Seita is no hero (there are no heroes in Takahata's movies) but he's not a villain either. He's just a young boy trying to make the best of an impossible situation. Sure, he makes some unwise choices, but hey, he's like 12-14 years old. I've always understood the movie so that Seita is as much a victim as Setsuko. What do you think about this common conception of Setsuko's death being Seita's fault?

It's hard to argue with the author. The story is semi-autobiographical as his younger sister died in similar circumstances. He blamed himself and was a bit surprised that the movie audiences didn't feel he was to blame.

I don't see the film as anti-war, but more a story of human nature when things get really tough. In a way, it's like every film version involving the Titanic. The iceberg in those films, much like the war in Grave, merely set the stage for the human drama that was to play out.

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Doesn't the Japanese DVD use the old dub? I don't have the Disney version to compare, but I think that's it.

You are correct. I've got the Japanese Region 2 DVD and the old airline version dub is on it. While I was never impressed with the earlier dub, the Disney dub is AWFUL.

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Recently, I have gotten into Studio Ghibli films and so far in the past week, I have watched "Howls Moving Castle", "Laputa: Castle In the Sky", "Princess Mononoke", and "Grave of the Fireflies"

I was a bit skeptical to watch "Grave of the Fireflies", for it wasn't one of Studio Ghibli's greatest successes (so I saw online. Maybe I'm wrong?) , but I loved it! It is UNBELIEVABLE how under appreciated it is! I have NEVER, I'll repeat NEVER, cried during a movie, but by the end I was bawling. It was pretty bad.

I just wanted to know if anybody had mutual feelings? Have you seen it yet? Your favorite part? Just post any of your thoughts on the movie!

Happy typing!

I didn't cry because I was too stunned to do anything in those few days after my first viewing. It's hard to cry when you're hit by a train.

While I can't make any claim to understand the true heart of a Japanese, I know enough, after decades of marriage to one and an equally long experience interacting with the Japanese, to be able to claim the aunt as one of the most evil characters ever portrayed in literature written in any language.

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There were a few places that I really did draw up a plan and set out to visit -- namely, Himeji Castle, the Tokyo Tower, Hiroshima, and a few areas in Kyoto. And Shizuku's neighbourhood, of course.




A bit of an update: Tokyo Tower has been dwarfed by the Sky Tree. It opened this year and is already a backdrop in nearly every television drama set in Tokyo. It's 634 meters high (close to 2000 feet) and the lower observation deck is over 350 meters up.



One added nice thing about going to the "tree" is the very well-stocked Donguri Kyouwakoku (Acorn Republic) store nearby which specializes in Ghibli merchandise.

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