Posted by saviour2012 on 03.25.2012, 01:30 PM:
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 03.25.2012, 03:46 PM:
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Posted by Calforsale on 03.25.2012, 09:24 PM: What the hell has happened to this thread?!
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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.26.2012, 12:43 AM:
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 03.26.2012, 03:04 AM: First Saviour said that there is no scientific basis for homosexuality and everyone with a rudimentary understanding of biology proved him wrong (with ample evidence). Then Saviour listed a number of passages from the Quran in an attempt to prove that Islam was scientifically accurate (though there is plenty of evidence to the contrary: http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific...s_in_the_Qur'an), since just saying "being gay is unscientific" over and over again wasn't working. Then Saviour tried to prove that God must exist because Newtonian physics exist. I countered by bringing up quantum physics, which run contrary to the rules of Newtonian physics, proving that physics are not constant at all levels of existence, which was the basis of his argument for the existence of God; I also mentioned that current science is very close to explaining how the universe might be capable of emerging from nothing all on its own. He then gave a stern lecture on quantum mechanics, which explained absolutely nothing I did not already know, and concluded that quantum physics are weird, so they don't matter to people, and that scientists are bad because they are trying to prove that the universe was created by chance - which is false, because one of the fundamental principles of science is that you should never set out to prove a deeply-held belief, but should be open to the truth whether it fits your conception of the universe or not; Saviour has therefore proved himself to be a bad scientist, because he is starting out with a preconceived notion of what the truth should be (taken from the Quran) and blinding himself to any evidence that appears to contradict that belief. Human beings start with beliefs and then look for evidence to support them; you can see this pattern of behavior in anyone with any kind of prejudice, from racism to sexism. Science is an effort to subvert that human tendency.
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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.26.2012, 03:26 AM: if i give explanation of those one by one will you believe in god.
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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.26.2012, 06:08 AM: breaking news neutrinos obey the speed limit. hurray
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Posted by Kazegami on 03.26.2012, 07:00 AM:
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Posted by Roarkiller on 03.26.2012, 12:27 PM: Er, on the bright side, we're back on topic. Ha ha... "
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Posted by Saddletank on 03.26.2012, 12:40 PM:
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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.26.2012, 12:48 PM: off topic
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 03.26.2012, 12:50 PM:
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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.26.2012, 12:58 PM:
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Posted by Kazegami on 03.26.2012, 01:00 PM:
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 03.26.2012, 01:08 PM:
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Posted by AmtrakDesertWindrider on 03.26.2012, 01:11 PM: So kiddies, what have we learned here?
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Posted by saviour2012 on 03.26.2012, 01:51 PM:
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Posted by Orphic Okapi on 03.26.2012, 03:22 PM: Well! Can't argue with that.
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Posted by hopexx5 on 03.26.2012, 03:35 PM: Sorry but, how did a thread about gay rights become a highly scientific affair? |
Posted by fenkashi on 03.26.2012, 03:55 PM: Read up, it was summarized.
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